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Charlie Palmer works on new business models for a post-pandemic world

The legendary chef has new techniques for managing labor and controlling costs

Bret Thorn, Senior Food Editor

December 3, 2020

2 Min Read
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Chef and restaurateur Charlie Palmer joins Bret Thorn this week to discuss how COVID has impacted his restaurants.Dave Kotinsky / Stringer / Getty Images Entertainment

Charlie Palmer is a member of the old guard of American fine-dining chefs, having opened Aureole in an Upper East Side townhouse in New York City in 1988, but he remains a nimble restaurateur, reworking business models and adjusting to the needs of his customers in the face of the pandemic.

Before the lockdowns, Palmer had 16 bars and restaurants in New York City, Las Vegas and Washington, D.C., as well as in California wine country, where he has been safely sheltering in Healdsburg, Calif., near his Dry Creek Kitchen.

His businesses include running the foodservice at Well& By Durst, a food hall and catering venue in New York that has been at the heart of the “contract meals” that his team is now preparing for offices — a sort of specialized catering that he sees as a useful solution for companies that want to scale back on their own food offerings.

In this podcast Palmer discusses what he has learned about food that travels well, the higher-end delivery that his team handles themselves via Aureole at Home, and a business model he developed for his Ava Social concept that allows cooks to share in gratuities.

He also shares his plans for Aureole, which moved to Bryant Park a dozen years ago and is now closed, soon to be replaced by a Charlie Palmer Steak.

In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn · Charlie Palmer works on new business models for a post-pandemic world

Contact Bret Thorn at [email protected] 

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About the Author

Bret Thorn

Senior Food Editor, Nation's Restaurant News

Senior Food & Beverage Editor

Bret Thorn is senior food & beverage editor for Nation’s Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality for Informa’s Restaurants and Food Group, with responsibility for spotting and reporting on food and beverage trends across the country for both publications as well as guiding overall F&B coverage. 

He is the host of a podcast, In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn, which features interviews with chefs, food & beverage authorities and other experts in foodservice operations.

From 2005 to 2008 he also wrote the Kitchen Dish column for The New York Sun, covering restaurant openings and chefs’ career moves in New York City.

He joined Nation’s Restaurant News in 1999 after spending about five years in Thailand, where he wrote articles about business, banking and finance as well as restaurant reviews and food columns for Manager magazine and Asia Times newspaper. He joined Restaurant Hospitality’s staff in 2016 while retaining his position at NRN. 

A magna cum laude graduate of Tufts University in Medford, Mass., with a bachelor’s degree in history, and a member of Phi Beta Kappa, Thorn also studied traditional French cooking at Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine in Paris. He spent his junior year of college in China, studying Chinese language, history and culture for a semester each at Nanjing University and Beijing University. While in Beijing, he also worked for ABC News during the protests and ultimate crackdown in and around Tiananmen Square in 1989.

Thorn’s monthly column in Nation’s Restaurant News won the 2006 Jesse H. Neal National Business Journalism Award for best staff-written editorial or opinion column.

He served as president of the International Foodservice Editorial Council, or IFEC, in 2005.

Thorn wrote the entry on comfort food in the Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America, 2nd edition, published in 2012. He also wrote a history of plated desserts for the Oxford Companion to Sugar and Sweets, published in 2015.

He was inducted into the Disciples d’Escoffier in 2014.

A Colorado native originally from Denver, Thorn lives in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Bret Thorn’s areas of expertise include food and beverage trends in restaurants, French cuisine, the cuisines of Asia in general and Thailand in particular, restaurant operations and service trends. 

Bret Thorn’s Experience: 

Nation’s Restaurant News, food & beverage editor, 1999-Present
New York Sun, columnist, 2005-2008 
Asia Times, sub editor, 1995-1997
Manager magazine, senior editor and restaurant critic, 1992-1997
ABC News, runner, May-July, 1989

Education:
Tufts University, BA in history, 1990
Peking University, studied Chinese language, spring, 1989
Nanjing University, studied Chinese language and culture, fall, 1988 
Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine, Cértificat Elémentaire, 1986

Email: [email protected]

Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bret-thorn-468b663/
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Twitter: @foodwriterdiary
Instagram: @foodwriterdiary

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