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Tommy Charoen of Rooster & Rice in the San Francisco Bay area discusses his journey

The restaurant’s signature khao man gai is a beloved comfort food

Bret Thorn, Senior Food Editor

June 24, 2021

2 Min Read
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Tommy Charoen is the chef of Rooster & Rice, a 10-unit fast-casual concept that specializes in a chicken dish that is called khao man gai in Thai.

It’s a straightforward dish that actually originated with Chinese people from Hainan Island who immigrated to the Malay peninsula, where it’s known simply as Hainanese chicken rice. Chicken is poached in water seasoned with garlic, ginger and other aromatics, and then it’s served with rice that’s cooked in the same broth, a bowl of that broth, some chile sauce and usually a couple of cucumber chips. When the dish came to Thailand they introduced their own style of chile sauce and gave it a name that loosely translates as “rich rice chicken.”

Khao man gai might not have the high-pitch flavor complexity that many Thai dishes have, but it’s a comfort food there, and Charoen soon learned while cooking in restaurants in the San Francisco Bay area that it was comfort food for the cooks there, too, who often requested it for the family meal.

Charoen hadn’t meant to be a chef. He studied computers and business in college in Thailand, but when he visited a cousin in Las Vegas he saw the nice air-conditioned setups of the kitchens there, and he also liked the star power that chefs have in the United States. One thing led to another and he ended up cooking at Tsunami restaurant in the Venetian hotel, and then from there was taken to San Francisco to work for the Straits Restaurant Group where he met his now-business partner Bryan Lew. Together they opened an Indonesian restaurant in Palo Alto, Calif., called Indo, and it was in that kitchen that Rooster & Rice was born.

In this podcast Charoen discusses his journey, how khao man gai has evolved in the Bay Area (he has vegetarian and paleo versions).

Contact Bret Thorn at [email protected] 

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About the Author

Bret Thorn

Senior Food Editor, Nation's Restaurant News

Senior Food & Beverage Editor

Bret Thorn is senior food & beverage editor for Nation’s Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality for Informa’s Restaurants and Food Group, with responsibility for spotting and reporting on food and beverage trends across the country for both publications as well as guiding overall F&B coverage. 

He is the host of a podcast, In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn, which features interviews with chefs, food & beverage authorities and other experts in foodservice operations.

From 2005 to 2008 he also wrote the Kitchen Dish column for The New York Sun, covering restaurant openings and chefs’ career moves in New York City.

He joined Nation’s Restaurant News in 1999 after spending about five years in Thailand, where he wrote articles about business, banking and finance as well as restaurant reviews and food columns for Manager magazine and Asia Times newspaper. He joined Restaurant Hospitality’s staff in 2016 while retaining his position at NRN. 

A magna cum laude graduate of Tufts University in Medford, Mass., with a bachelor’s degree in history, and a member of Phi Beta Kappa, Thorn also studied traditional French cooking at Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine in Paris. He spent his junior year of college in China, studying Chinese language, history and culture for a semester each at Nanjing University and Beijing University. While in Beijing, he also worked for ABC News during the protests and ultimate crackdown in and around Tiananmen Square in 1989.

Thorn’s monthly column in Nation’s Restaurant News won the 2006 Jesse H. Neal National Business Journalism Award for best staff-written editorial or opinion column.

He served as president of the International Foodservice Editorial Council, or IFEC, in 2005.

Thorn wrote the entry on comfort food in the Oxford Encyclopedia of Food and Drink in America, 2nd edition, published in 2012. He also wrote a history of plated desserts for the Oxford Companion to Sugar and Sweets, published in 2015.

He was inducted into the Disciples d’Escoffier in 2014.

A Colorado native originally from Denver, Thorn lives in Brooklyn, N.Y.

Bret Thorn’s areas of expertise include food and beverage trends in restaurants, French cuisine, the cuisines of Asia in general and Thailand in particular, restaurant operations and service trends. 

Bret Thorn’s Experience: 

Nation’s Restaurant News, food & beverage editor, 1999-Present
New York Sun, columnist, 2005-2008 
Asia Times, sub editor, 1995-1997
Manager magazine, senior editor and restaurant critic, 1992-1997
ABC News, runner, May-July, 1989

Education:
Tufts University, BA in history, 1990
Peking University, studied Chinese language, spring, 1989
Nanjing University, studied Chinese language and culture, fall, 1988 
Le Cordon Bleu Ecole de Cuisine, Cértificat Elémentaire, 1986

Email: [email protected]

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