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The top 10 episodes of In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn

From Charlie Palmer and Daniel Boulud to Sofia Deleon and Michael Chon, this year has included one-on-one interviews with some of the world’s leading and up-and-coming chefs

Holly Petre, Assistant Digital Editor

December 11, 2020

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Just before the growing pandemic forced a closure of restaurant dining rooms across the country in early March, Restaurant Hospitality and Nation’s Restaurant News launched a new podcast: In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn.

Based off of the monthly column by senior food and beverage editor Bret Thorn, the podcast is a one-on-one interview with a chef or culinary executive about all things food.

We kicked off the podcast with a two-part series on Daniel Boulud, who spoke about the future of the restaurant industry, as well as mentorship.

The podcast conversations later focused on the pandemic, not surprisingly, but also on the cry for racial justice following George Floyd’s death, and the daily struggles of restaurant operators forced to rethink their entire business model and menus.

Some of those podcasts included:

  • Charlie Palmer on new business models for a post-pandemic world;

  • Chef Michael Schulson, who talked about navigating full-service operations as Philadelphia restaurants reopened; and

  • Michael Chon explaining how to do Korean barbecue with social distancing.

Regarding the impact of the social justice movement, other podcasts included:

  • Ajay Relan talked about the work to make Hilltop Coffee & Kitchen a resource for South Los Angeles, and

  • Kavachi Ukegbu celebrated her Nigerian heritage in Houston and spoke about racial justice.

The podcast series also included episodes that didn’t make the Top 10 list from up-and-comers, like Sofia Deleon of El Merkury and her Central American cuisine; Roni Mazumdar and Chintan Pandya, who spoke about how they are modernizing Indian cuisine; Nick Bognar of Indo restaurant in St. Louis; and Pichet Ong and Lydia Chang, who offer Chinese food for their generation at NiHao.

Thorn also spoke to industry heavy-hitters, including Ti Martin and Lally Brennan, Kerry Heffernan, Kevin Lillis and Carl Howard of Fazoli’s.

See which of these podcasts were the 10 most popular of the year.

About the Author

Holly Petre

Assistant Digital Editor

Holly Petre is a digital editor for Nation’s Restaurant News as well as the host of NRN’s podcast, Extra Serving, and producer for Informa Restaurant and Food Group’s other three podcasts, One On One by Food Management, Off the Shelf with SN and In the Kitchen with Bret Thorn. Holly holds a Bachelor of Fine Arts with a concentration in Sculpture, fibers and Material Studies and Ceramics from the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. A native New Yorker, Holly enjoys her place on staff as the resident pop-culture expert and millennial with a sassy attitude and great sense of style.

Holly Petre’s work on Nation’s Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality often covers marketing and trends, either aimed-at or examined-through the millennial mindset. Holly is responsible for introducing TikTok and Twitch to NRN and RH readers as well as explaining terms like “Karen” to staff and readers alike. She also spends her time on staff trying not to make every headline a pun.

Holly Petre hasn’t spoken at any events or on panels, but she is readily available with a killer shoe wardrobe and several witty quips.

 

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